leaving neverland the micheal jackson documentary was just released and i must say watching it myself left me pretty disgusted but not necessarily surprised.. being that there is two accounts given by two separate boys, men now, leaves the impression that their stories are truthful and factual.. what one can take from this story is that mj was a megalomaniac that thought he had the power, money and personal stature to get away with just about anything he wanted, this included pedophilia with boys.
i wonder if the over oppression restrictive nature of being brought up a child in the jws religion had an effect to his loose out of control behavior of a super rich celebrity ?.
his celebrity status and wealth really came to him when he was a pubescent young boy/teen, money in such a huge amount made anything he wanted or could afford possible.. personally i think he was inherently gay and had pursued arranged marriages to protect his perceived public image, a pretentious act which was mostly devised as a money and business endeavor .
If you are able to watch the interviews after the documentary, they discuss why they are just now talking about it and previously defended Jackson. It is important to note that the documentary director approached them and they were not paid for participating in the film.
This article from Vanity Fair was insightful too. These two men are not the only boys to have accused Jackson of this - there are at least 3 others who have come forward. Who knows how many others are out there but silent?
leaving neverland the micheal jackson documentary was just released and i must say watching it myself left me pretty disgusted but not necessarily surprised.. being that there is two accounts given by two separate boys, men now, leaves the impression that their stories are truthful and factual.. what one can take from this story is that mj was a megalomaniac that thought he had the power, money and personal stature to get away with just about anything he wanted, this included pedophilia with boys.
i wonder if the over oppression restrictive nature of being brought up a child in the jws religion had an effect to his loose out of control behavior of a super rich celebrity ?.
his celebrity status and wealth really came to him when he was a pubescent young boy/teen, money in such a huge amount made anything he wanted or could afford possible.. personally i think he was inherently gay and had pursued arranged marriages to protect his perceived public image, a pretentious act which was mostly devised as a money and business endeavor .
@cofty That research is really old. Got anything newer??
since the hbo documentary, more people are condemning mj.
will these child abuse allegations affect you if you ever liked his music?.
If the world stopped admiring all the artists who were immoral in some way, there would be almost no art.
People are not all good or all bad. That is immature thinking that the WT encourages. However, healthy thinking can hold someone as both good and bad and form an opinion.
i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.
initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.
however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.
When you have a study scheduled, leave her a nice present and a note that you aren't interested in continuing. Then, make sure you are out doing something fun.
Block all of their numbers on your phone. Don't answer when they come by. They will give up sooner than you might imagine. they've got time to count!
i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.
initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.
however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.
What scriptures support JWs accepting all blood fractions except plasma, but not accepting whole blood which is all fractions and plasma together?
what scriptures support not seeking higher education?
i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.
initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.
however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.
Why do Jehovah's Witness warn against higher education?
In WT on Child Sexual Abuse, why are elders not explicitly instructed to report to the police?
Why are parents not instructed to report to the police and seek medical attention or counseling for their child?
leaving neverland the micheal jackson documentary was just released and i must say watching it myself left me pretty disgusted but not necessarily surprised.. being that there is two accounts given by two separate boys, men now, leaves the impression that their stories are truthful and factual.. what one can take from this story is that mj was a megalomaniac that thought he had the power, money and personal stature to get away with just about anything he wanted, this included pedophilia with boys.
i wonder if the over oppression restrictive nature of being brought up a child in the jws religion had an effect to his loose out of control behavior of a super rich celebrity ?.
his celebrity status and wealth really came to him when he was a pubescent young boy/teen, money in such a huge amount made anything he wanted or could afford possible.. personally i think he was inherently gay and had pursued arranged marriages to protect his perceived public image, a pretentious act which was mostly devised as a money and business endeavor .
Where is the research that backs up the 11:1 ratio for homosexual pedophiles?
I was one of those who for a long time thought he was an unwell, man but not capable of what he was said to have done. I personally believe that Jackson was on the autism spectrum and a drug addict. He may have also had some mental health issues that he was self-medicating.
I am not one that is quick to assume every accusation equals guilt. My rule of thumb is 3 accusations. You can convince one or two people to collude and lie, but 3 is hard to wrangle.
With documentary and previous accusations, there is enough evidence for me to conclude his relationships with these children involved sexual abuse. Given how he groomed them and the length of the relationships, the fact that the men at first defended him, and then came forward is not unusual and does not weaken their stories for me.
publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.
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coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.
No time cards or hour requirements - HOW are they going to know who the cool kids are??
If this happens you know there is going to be real panic.
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if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.
i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..
If they are confident God is going to save them, why run away? Just turn yourselves in and get on with it.
I'll have my lawn chair out with a bag of popcorn if any of you would like to join me.
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...but i believe is relevant:.
just how much is the watchtower organization's "business model" dependent on its tax-exempt status?.
is it truly sustainable without it?.
I think they could claim tax exempt status if they did ANY bit of real no-strings-attached charity. How about take all those mad meal prep skills they had for conventions and use those to run soup kitchens, or natural disaster relief for everyone in a given area....any little bit of generosity would be a move forward.
But the greedy little bastards use the line "what is the best thing you can give a hungry person? Spiritual food."
I've been hungry many times, and eating a Watchtower was never as satisfying as a hamburger. Although, I hear it is good to wipe your ass with when you forget to buy TP.
DS.
